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PostSubject: PSX Total Control   Tue 13 Jan 2015, 20:49

We have potentially just discovered the most game breaking glitch ever on Castlevania Symphony of the Night.

I checked and this defect in the games coding exists on PSX, Saturn and PSP.

A near 100% accurate way to rewrite any coding into the game we want, True Total Control.

I found that if the Joseph's Cloak Color Modifier Selector, and Window Color Modifier Selector become displaced,
this gives you the ability to scroll to any section of memory in the game and increase or decrease it, just like
you would do by increasing the color of the Cloak or the Windows.





I am confident that we can most likely use SOS to displace the Selector on PSX...
and use the Matrix Stats Glitches to displace the Selectors on Saturn and PSP Wink


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PostSubject: Re: PSX Total Control   Tue 13 Jan 2015, 20:51

Awesome! I wanna see this in action Smile

Btw, with "I found that if the Joseph's Cloak Color Modifier Selector, and Window Color Modifier Selector become displaced," you mean that you first need SOS in order to displace those sections, right?

Edit: yea, you said it. SOS necessary Sad.
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PostSubject: Re: PSX Total Control   Tue 13 Jan 2015, 21:04

Yeah, we will have to use SOS and the Matrix Stats Glitches to displace the
Joseph's Cloak Color Modifier Selector, and Window Color Modifier Selector...
unless we can find a simpler way.
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PostSubject: Re: PSX Total Control   Thu 29 Jan 2015, 21:52

Time to make this game are B*TCH lol!

Watch me give it to her... and take TOTAL CONTROL

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PostSubject: Re: PSX Total Control   Fri 30 Jan 2015, 22:27

Too hard and too much steps... You need to make it easier. Btw the movie is very funny!

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PostSubject: Re: PSX Total Control   Sat 31 Jan 2015, 21:33

nathan7878 wrote:
Time to make this game are B*TCH lol!

Watch me give it to her... and take TOTAL CONTROL


Nice! but you could've done something after the total control unlocked, since unlocking it just to cut out the video after 10minutes...

Also the vid looks very hard to understand without indications like the other one. The memory at the left at the end looks like a mess because we cannot see what you're doing with the controller...

Also I don't understand the vid. You first change the music pointer to something and then suicide just to respawn and then overwrite the pointer with another values???? what do you win with the first change if you die and then start again and the pointer ends up being rewritten?
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PostSubject: Re: PSX Total Control   Sun 01 Feb 2015, 17:43

paulo1179 wrote:
Too hard and too much steps... You need to make it easier. Btw the movie is very funny!
I am sure we can find a easier way eventually...


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Nice! but you could've done something after the total control unlocked, since unlocking it just to cut out the video after 10minutes...
Yeah, once I had the power I couldn't think of what I wanted to do with it LOL, plus it would have taken awhile to scroll down to any good memory
address to show it off, I really just wanted to show that we had taken TC...


someolddude wrote:

Also the vid looks very hard to understand without indications like the other one. The memory at the left at the end looks like a mess because we cannot see what you're doing with the controller...

Also I don't understand the vid. You first change the music pointer to something and then suicide just to respawn and then overwrite the pointer with another values???? what do you win with the first change if you die and then start again and the pointer ends up being rewritten?
This video was really just a rough draft to make sure the TC glitch would actually work, since some of the set ups and steps could probably be minimized for a TAS programming in NES Castlevania or Castlevania 3, once I get the glitch more minimal, I will make a video explaining it in detail...

but the short of what happened in this video is, I set the Music Pointer to 80097A8D which pointed it at my weapons inventory,
so it would give me values above A8 in my weapons inventory that I could swap into the Music Pointer next... when i died,
it did not clear the Music Pointer, it just reset my weapons inventory.

When I re-entered the Librarian's Room after the suicide, I was given the values above A8 in my weapons inventory, which I then used
to change the Music Pointer to 8003C9E0... displacing the Cloak and Windows color selector modifiers, giving me TC.

Yeah, it was pretty f@cking confusing Neutral it took me awhile just to make the video because I kept confusing myself and messing
up steps when I was trying to record it... but like I said, when I make it more minimized I will make a video explaining it in detail.
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PostSubject: Re: PSX Total Control   Sun 01 Feb 2015, 19:17

nathan7878 wrote:
This video was really just a rough draft to make sure the TC glitch would actually work, since some of the set ups and steps could probably be minimized for a TAS programming in NES Castlevania or Castlevania 3, once I get the glitch more minimal, I will make a video explaining it in detail...

but the short of what happened in this video is, I set the Music Pointer to 80097A8D which pointed it at my weapons inventory,
so it would give me values above A8 in my weapons inventory that I could swap into the Music Pointer next... when i died,
it did not clear the Music Pointer, it just reset my weapons inventory.

When I re-entered the Librarian's Room after the suicide, I was given the values above A8 in my weapons inventory, which I then used
to change the Music Pointer to 8003C9E0... displacing the Cloak and Windows color selector modifiers, giving me TC.

Yeah, it was pretty f@cking confusing Neutral it took me awhile just to make the video because I kept confusing myself and messing
up steps when I was trying to record it... but like I said, when I make it more minimized I will make a video explaining it in detail.

I still dot understand the 2 steps vid Sad

Normally, you would replace the music pointer for any gameshark code (for example room changing code) so when you return from a vid or something happens and the game tries to play the music, it actually executes the code, okay. So with 1 change you can execute the code you need.

Then why you aren't just executing the code to missplace the cloack window with a single code? It is not possible? I do not understand the first pointer replacement at all. It is for the "I was given the values above A8 in my weapons inventory" reason? You need to abuse the tech first to get values A8 in the inventory? But then you say that when you die you get you inventory reset, so those values aren't lost?

I really need to put time into this lol, when I have time I literally fall sleep checking the values haha, need damn time to focus.

Thanks for the hard work mate!
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PostSubject: Re: PSX Total Control   Sun 01 Feb 2015, 21:44

lol! Confusing, right... I will just need to make another detailed video when I get the method for gaining TC minimized...

I used TC to create a save file in the last area we have not reached cat
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PostSubject: Re: PSX Total Control   Mon 02 Feb 2015, 20:00

nathan7878 wrote:
lol! Confusing, right... I will just need to make another detailed video when I get the method for gaining TC minimized...

I used TC to create a save file in the last area we have not reached cat

After re-reading the stuff some times, the problem with the "normal" TC method is that you can't put every gameshark code because you can't get some high values (over A8?), so in order to have them "ready" you first need to do the first stuff, some high values necessary appear and are saved through the reboot, and then with those values "available" you can code the real cheat? or I'm even more lost now lol.

Nice teleporting there Smile. The problem with this TC is that you're limited to the same that you can execute via gameshark, and that sucks, since others than room teleporting, most stuff has been tried or gotten out already. I'm starting to understand why Sockfolder left the game, since the major result (teleport to end sequence) had already been achieved. Fun stuff like coding a new character or map via sprites and a tooooooon of codes and patience isn't viable with this method (not even with gameshark for a normal person..). I don't see much profit through this Sad
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PostSubject: Re: PSX Total Control   Mon 02 Feb 2015, 21:19

someolddude wrote:

After re-reading the stuff some times, the problem with the "normal" TC method is that you can't put every gameshark code because you can't get some high values (over A8?), so in order to have them "ready" you first need to do the first stuff, some high values necessary appear and are saved through the reboot, and then with those values "available" you can code the real cheat? or I'm even more lost now lol.
That is pretty much right, but the main thing to keep in mind is the last code I put into the Music Pointer (which is a modified Game Shark code) displaces the Cloak and Window Color Selector Modifiers... the displacement of the Selector Modifiers is what gives the True Total Control, because after they are displaced I just have to use them to scroll down to the address I want and change it.

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Nice teleporting there Smile. The problem with this TC is that you're limited to the same that you can execute via gameshark, and that sucks, since others than room teleporting, most stuff has been tried or gotten out already. I'm starting to understand why Sockfolder left the game, since the major result (teleport to end sequence) had already been achieved. Fun stuff like coding a new character or map via sprites and a tooooooon of codes and patience isn't viable with this method (not even with gameshark for a normal person..). I don't see much profit through this Sad
Yeah, Sockfolder really just moved on because he is more about speed running games, and after he achieved his goal of using SOS/and his version of Total Control to gain the Speed Run World Record, he lost interest...

Programming in NES Castlevania or Castlevania 3 is possible, would it be hard as F@CK scratch, yes it would LOL... but they programmed in NES Super Mario Bros on SNES Super Mario World with a very similar method of TC...

Imagine if at AGDQ 2016, we debut a Castlevania SOTN TAS on a real PlayStation that programs in NES Castlevania 3,
that would be a ground breaking achievement Twisted Evil and win TAS of the year.
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PostSubject: Re: PSX Total Control   Fri 06 Feb 2015, 12:39

nathan7878 wrote:
Programming in NES Castlevania or Castlevania 3 is possible, would it be hard as F@CK scratch, yes it would LOL... but they programmed in NES Super Mario Bros on SNES Super Mario World with a very similar method of TC...

Imagine if at AGDQ 2016, we debut a Castlevania SOTN TAS on a real PlayStation that programs in NES Castlevania 3,
that would be a ground breaking achievement Twisted Evil and win TAS of the year.

Programming such games takes a looot of time, since there are a loot of code to put there (unless its an imitation..), and at that point you may find that there is not enough space in tc for that to work, or something, since you will end up finding code that you cannot replace anytime or some other stuff.
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PostSubject: Re: PSX Total Control   Mon 16 Feb 2015, 22:03

Dollar, Dollar bills y'all $$$$$$$$$$$$



alien LOL...
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PostSubject: Re: PSX Total Control   Wed 18 Feb 2015, 18:24

Haha, that was awesome lol! .

Good use of TC Very Happy.

Now make a code and start an speedrun where every enemy in the game but bosses is immortal and nearly kills you in one hit, or something weird like that Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: PSX Total Control   Fri 27 Feb 2015, 00:53

What if for are first Total Control TAS we programmed in the Tiger Hand Held Version on SOTN lol!
Anybody have one of these? they don't seem very complex at all, basically it would just be programming
in pictures with very basic functions... check out this site to get a better idea of what I mean http://www.pica-pic.com/
I think it would be pretty bad ass Twisted Evil here is more info on the game http://www.vgmuseum.com/mrp/2/sotn-handheld.htm


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PostSubject: Re: PSX Total Control   Sun 01 Mar 2015, 18:22

It would be a lot of work to program a game into the game (if you really can get enough space to replace ops for it), but if you feel comfortable, you can spend a lot of time and get a fucking awesome result, worth presenting on AGDQ!!!
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PostSubject: Re: PSX Total Control   Fri 06 Mar 2015, 11:47

What are all the effects of the Infinity Glitch scratch Even small ones, this could really help in
identifying where the Glitch is actually occurring in the games coding and why it is occurring.

1. There is a massive slow down in animations in the game, some animations
may even disappear, including Alucard himself.
2. On screen Hearts Counter becomes Glitched and begins to flicker.
3. LMU's and HMU's infinitely reappear in the Underground Caverns.

What are the effects in Richter Special mode scratch
1.The gate blocking part of the right side of the Underground Caverns in now open.

...Richter can slip in between some walls scratch
I never really messed with this Glitch to much.
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PostSubject: Re: PSX Total Control   Sat 07 Mar 2015, 10:37

The richter Special mode is not linked to infinity. It just happens that the movie i first made that we thought was the method to Richter special was infact infinity and richter special.

Richter special is just turning into bat with alucard and soft reset and load richter. So this effect would easily (By your standards) be able to see what is happening game code wise.

Infinity is so much more complex since it does vary with what hardware you are using also. At least at this time there is no method that works on all known hardware.

If you would like i have a document compiled of all known Infinity Information that we currently possess. If you would like this let me know.
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PostSubject: Re: PSX Total Control   Sat 07 Mar 2015, 22:13

Pale-Dim wrote:
i have a document compiled of all known Infinity Information that we currently possess.

Can you post here? I'm interested on it too. study

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PostSubject: Re: PSX Total Control   Sat 07 Mar 2015, 22:44

Infinity Faq
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PostSubject: Re: PSX Total Control   Sun 08 Mar 2015, 09:53

Thanks,

I forgot that the Game Percentage effects the glitch, that might be a good area in the coding to investigate first Suspect
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PostSubject: Re: PSX Total Control   Sun 08 Mar 2015, 12:11

one thing to note. i was never able to get the right lake gate to open for richter on emulator. i had to import my save from my psx after i did it there. was there anyone who managed to get it to open on emulator? if so what method
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PostSubject: Re: PSX Total Control   Fri 20 Mar 2015, 14:05

Funny, I was just testing out the Save Glitch on the Japanese Versions of the game too...

To do what some call the "Perfect Save Glitch" on the Japanese Versions is very hard, it seems the Save Glitch
on these Versions is very sensitive...

If you use the E3 Version of the game to try and do the Perfect Save Glitch it is way easier,
then just swap back to one of the Japanese Versions, since they are the same ISO Version...
http://castleofdracula.com.ru/downloads/games_series/castle_sotn_e3_demo.htm

If that doesn't Translate right on Google, could you explain what I mean Paul for Mr.Anderson.



... but also because the Save Glitch is so sensitive on the Japanese Versions, it seems you can corrupt more
areas of the games data, one of the main parts that can become corrupted is the Cloak and Window Color Modifier
Selectors, so I think we might just be able to use it to gain Total Control very fast and easy pig


Oh, and Pale, Paul or Jack do you guys remember... is there a way to do the Save Glitch/Map Reset with Richter scratch
I could swear I saw a video on Youtube once showing it...

and wasn't there a Save Glitch thing where you use the Wolf or something using the Wolf and the Save Orb scratch
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PostSubject: Re: PSX Total Control   Fri 20 Mar 2015, 23:39

Soft reset during save process? I never did save glitch with him.

Someone posted an alt way to do the save glitch loooooong time ago: Do everything that you normally do on a save glitch during the teleport animation (between castles) instead of a save process. Can you test and share the results?

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PostSubject: Re: PSX Total Control   Sat 21 Mar 2015, 15:36

paulo1179 wrote:
Someone posted an alt way to do the save glitch loooooong time ago: Do everything that you normally do on a save glitch during the teleport animation (between castles) instead of a save process. Can you test and share the results?
Yeah, I will check it out.


I finally found the video... looks like he hard resets a real system scratch
The video captions are in Portuguese, Paul could you kind of tell us what they say, Please I love you
The actual Save Glitch is at 4:58. (I translated the comment section and he said this works with Alucard too.)
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